Homeowner shoveling snow for the neighborhood is confronted by neighbor who assumes he has been hired by the HOA and demands he clear her walkway: 'I've been waiting for my walkway to be shoveled out. Are you going to do it today?'

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  • A man dressed in heavy winter clothing shovels snow out of the walkway
  • "I'm NOT shoveling your walkway and I'm NOT with the HOA."

    In my community all of the homes have driveways and garages. But it also has additional off- street parking along a service road that circles the neighborhood.
  • We've been snowed in with sub-freezing temperatures for the last week and a half so now that we got a few warmer days, it was time to start digging out.
  • I went to shovel out my spare vehicle which is on the service road and I decided to wear my full winter weather getup that I use while working in construction.
  • Parked in front and behind me were both my elderly next door neighbor and my friend who lives on the other end of the neighborhood so I shoveled out their cars also.
  • I was right there, I didn't mind, no big deal. I took care of it. After finishing up the 3rd car, this woman with "karen" tendencies walked up to me saying "Helllooooooooo!!!!!!
  • Yes! You! I've been waiting for my walkway to be shoveled out. Are you going to do it today?" Ummm...no.
  • I had no idea who she was or why she thought I was the one that was going to do her shoveling.
  • It took me a minute to figure out what she was trying to convey because at first I thought I might have shoveled out her car by mistake (thinking it belonged to my friend) and now she was mad that I did it.
  • I dunno. She didn't scream or create a scene. But I'm guessing that she thought I was with the HOA and I was coming to shovel her walkway.
  • To give this context, my HOA is not that great. The good thing is that they don't bother you with stupid rules or give anyone a hard time.
  • But the not-so- good thing is that they're not easy to get a hold of and they're slow to respond when you need them.
  • Like with many other things, it's their responsibility to do snow removal. You can either handle it yourself or you can wait 3 weeks.
  • And when you call them up, it goes to an answering machine. So I'm guessing that the lady called the HOA and then saw me outside shoveling a little while later.
  • I don't know if she's new to the neighborhood but for as long as I've been living there, it's kinda been an unwritten rule that if you're able and willing to shovel your driveway, you also shovel out half of the street in front of your driveway so that you don't create a patch of ice that's hard to navigate.
  • A side effect is that when everyone does it, the road is passable. It's not perfectly clear but enough of the snow is removed to where people can get in and out.
  • But anyhow I went on to shovel my elderly neighbor's walkway and the whole time the lady is pestering me about when it's going. to be "her turn" because she's got places to go and things to do.
  • That's when I realized what was going on and what she was thinking. And I simply said, "I'm not with the HOA.
  • I live here." And maybe she didn't understand but she practically followed me around the neighborhood while I helped some of my other neighbors.
  • A man dressed in leather winter gear shovels snow in front of a green gate as it still falls around him
  • Trin959 No good deed goes unpunished. The wildest story I heard in a similar vein was this: I live in a small town so no HOAs to deal with, thank God. But we'd had a few feet of snow and a guy who is part-owner of a local impliment dealer took a small tractor with a bucket on the front around to clear people's drives for free. He's been doing this for years and never charged anyone. It's his good neighbor project. Anyway, this time one guy chewed him out for not doing more around the guy's house
  • ted_anderson Original Poster's Reply Yeah.. I've heard the whole, "If you can't to a completely excellent job, you shouldn't even bother doing it in the first place." argument before. Never mind that I'm doing you a favor or this is an emergency that I'm mitigating.
  • K1yco > But anyhow I went on to shovel my elderly neighbor's walkway and the whole time the lady is pestering me about when it's going to be "her turn" because she's got places to go and things to do Even if you were the HOA provided shoveler, the answer would be when you're not in the middle of shoveling someone else's drive way. She wouldn't want someone stopping in the middle of working on hers if someone else came up and asked you.
  • ted_anderson Original Poster's Reply So true.
  • yarevande Many people don't take the time to read and understand the responsibilities of their Homeowners Association or condo managemnent, vs. their responsibilities. And they don't ask questions. Get to know your neighbors, people. Ask them how things work (and don't work) in your subdivision or condo!
  • ted_anderson Original Poster's Reply That's an excellent point. I wasn't offended by her approach but I'm sure it would have gone differently had she introduced herself and asked me if I was from the HOA instead of assuming that I was.
  • broke_velvet_clown Dude down the street, back when we used to get snow, had an industrial strength snow blower, it was gigantic, like any bigger it would have to be operated by another piece of equipment while he sat and operated it. He would walk with it clearing lanes in the street, back and forth and cut into your driveway so you didn't have to shovel that part. We had a, what I would call medium sized snow blower but next to his was a toddler's plastic ball popping vacuum cleaner, that I wou
  • ted_anderson Original Poster's Reply >A few of those family's complained to him about not clearing their driveway while he was out, so he stopped doing it at all and so did I. This is what I tried to explain to my entitled nephew. The neighbor next door to where he and his mother live has one of those cheapo snow blowers that cuts a path only 16 inches wide. He runs a sidewalk path from the neighbors' driveways on both sides. My nephew was going to blast him on social media and I said, "This guy
  • Rational1x Went to visit my widowed senior mom, who lived out on the Olympic Peninsula. Woke up the first day with about 18" of fresh snow on her 45-foot-long double wide driveway. I grabbed her snow shovel from her garage and started shoveling, long story short, first one neighbor, then four more neighbors all showed up with their shovels, and the six of us had a great morning shoveling every driveway on her street. It was a great morning.
  • ted_anderson Original Poster's Reply My mom is in a similar situation. But she has abled body people living with her who don't like to shovel snow. And so I tell them all the time, "You need to go out there when your neighbors are shoveling and everyone will come over and help." But they want me to drive 20 miles to come over there and help. No.
  • thebenson >We've been snowed in with sub- freezing temperatures for the last week and a half so now that we got a few warmer days, it was time to start digging out. Your HOA should be doing this for you, but if you're going to do it yourself it is a mistake to wait until the end of the storm to start clearing snow. That's how you end up with an unmanageable amount of snow to clear and have people dying from heart attacks while clearing snow. You should shovel/clear the snow periodically, even wh
  • ted_anderson Original Poster's Reply It was still manageable. Like the riddle goes; How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. People tend to injure themselves because they try to do too much at one time. It's not race to the finish line nor is it some kind of competition. It's something that you have fun doing and then you enjoy the outcome of your efforts. Go inside when you get cold, take frequent breaks, drink plenty of water, and you'll be fine.
  • thebenson >It's something that you have fun doing It must not snow very much where you're from lol.
  • ted_anderson Original Poster's Reply Nope. It snows maybe once a year. Everything else is either a dusting or something that washes away the same day.
  • Stellar1557 "Hang on, let me check the calendar... Yeah it looks like your driveway isn't scheduled until June 15th."
  • ted_anderson Original Poster's Reply Good one! I love it.
  • Mojojojo3030 I like the charging her money ideas, but am I the only ghoul who would have just told her: "NO. I am never going to clear your driveway. I don't have to listen to you, and I'm not going to do anything you say. It's going to stay iced over and there's nothing you can do about it. I might even take this snow and add it to your driveway. Nyah nyah nyah. If you don't like it call in and complain." Technically true, technically not pretending to be the HOA in any way. Her reaction is wor
  • ted_anderson Original Poster's Reply It kinda went that way for a short period of time but I was just trying to get my car shoveled out while helping my neighbor. And I honestly don't think she was trying to cause any trouble. It's just that she was frustrated with the situation as we all were.
  • harinonfireagain I'm in a small town between two business districts. My sidewalk has dozens of pedestrians an hour. I keep the sidewalk for the whole block passable. The town plows pile the snow up waist high, sometimes higher, at the corners. I have the tools I need to break through those drifts to restore the pedestrian crossings, including a sledge hammer and a maul for this last frozen insanity. When I get home from work, after dark, I go out and reopen them if they've been plowed in again.
  • ted_anderson Original Poster's Reply I love it. I was thinking about that the other day while shoveling and how people are going to drive past my house and wonder why everything looks picture-perfect "clean" while the rest of neighborhood is covered in nasty road slush. I was thinking about how they would probably say, "Oh.. I bet that the HOA president lives there!"

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